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*---== ST REPORT ONLINE MAGAZINE ==---* """"""""""""""""""""""""" "The Original 16/32bit Online Magazine" _____________________________________ from STR Publishing Inc. """""""""""""""""" November 02, 1990 No.6.44 ======================================================================= STReport Online Magazine? Post Office Box 6672 Jacksonville, Florida 32205 ~ 6672 R.F. Mariano Publisher - Editor _________________________________________ Voice: 904-783-3319 10 AM - 4 PM EDT BBS: 904-786-4176 USR/HST DUAL STANDARD FAX: 904-783-3319 12 AM - 6 AM EDT _________________________________________ ** F-NET NODE 350 ** 500mb Online ** STR'S owned & operated support BBS carries ALL issues of STReport Online Magazine and An International list of private BBS systems carrying STReport Online Magazine for their users enjoyment __________________________________________________________________ > 11/02/90: STReport? #6.44 The Original 16/32 bit Online Magazine! ------------------------- - The Editor's Desk - CPU Report - CPU MacNews - SLICCTOP!! - Widgets Phantom! - DELUXE PAINT! - LCACE Updates - More LYNX Titles - STR Confidential * ATARI ALL SET TO DOMINATE AT COMDEX! * * ATARI CANADA TO BUNDLE NEODESK * * ATARI EMULATOR NOT LEGAL -> PRATT * ========================================================================== ST REPORT ONLINE MAGAZINE? The Number One Online Magazine -* FEATURING *- "Only UP-TO-DATE News and Information" Current Events, Original Articles, Hot Tips, and Information Hardware - Software - Corporate - R & D - Imports ========================================================================== STReport's support BBS, NODE # 350 invites systems using Forem ST and Turbo Board ST BBS to participate in the F-Net Mail Network. Or, call Node 350 direct at 904-786-4176, and enjoy the excitement of exchanging ideas about the Atari ST computers through an excellent International ST Mail Network. All SysOps in the F-Net are welcome to join the STReport Crossnet Conference. The Crossnet Conference Code is #34813, and the "Lead Node" is # 350. All systems are welcome to participate. Join Today! ========================================================================== AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY ON: GENIE ~ CIS ~ DELPHI ~ BIX ~ F-NET ========================================================================== > The Editor's Podium? The speculation runs high about this time of the year, what with all the highly anticipated announcements supposedly coming from Comdex, to the super strong hope of the userbase concerning Atari finally dedicating themselves to cultivating the US market, one can't help but get caught up in this "high hopes ozone layer". Atari certainly needs to take advantage of the "sleeping giant" known as the US cottage computer industry or the "home computer industry." Word has it that Atari's main emphasis, as far as advertising is con- cerned, will be on the Portfolio and the Lynx. After all, they are con- temporary products and in good distribution at this time. Since the Portfolio is a device that can give Atari a good "computer company" image, by it capability of bridging the confines of different computer platforms, it is easy to see why it takes precedence at this time too. Time is the real ally for Atari now, if they have enough ready to take advantage of this season and if they can ramp up fast enough for the 'on- time' delivery of all the new products to be announced at Comdex, there is no reason not believe they will be "awesome" in the coming year. thank you again for your support, Ralph..... *********************************************************************** NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY COMPUSERVE WILL PRESENT $15.00 WORTH OF COMPLIMENTARY ONLINE TIME to the Readers of; STREPORT ONLINE MAGAZINE """""""""""""""""""""""" "The Original 16/32bit Online Magazine" NEW USERS; SIGN UP TODAY! CALL: 1-800-848-8199 .. Ask for operator 198 You will receive your complimentary time and be online in no time at all! NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE WHAT'S NEW IN THE ATARI FORUMS (Nov. 2) NOVEMBER START ONLINE UPDATE! Enter GO START to read over this month's edition of START ONLINE. New features include: Software Shelf, articles on MIDI and the ST, User Group Listing updates, new reviews, and more. Lawrence Estep will be continually updating START ONLINE's User Group listings. Please send any updates and/or corrections to Lawrence at User ID number 71450,1050. START MAGAZINE'S online presence on CIS has been expanded and enhan- ced, additionally, there are new files to be downloaded by the users posted on a regular basis. DOUBLE CLICK SOFTWARE JOINS VENDORS FORUM We're happy to welcome Double Click software to the Atari Vendors Forum (GO ATARIVEN). Double Click will be occupying Message Section 13 and Library 13 in ATARIVEN. You can write to them at User ID number 75300,577. *********************************************************************** > CPU REPORT? ========== Issue # 89 ---------- by Michael Arthur CPU MacNews? =========== APPLE'S MAC SUPPORT, AND THE "CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE CENTER" --------------------------------------------------------- Apple Computer is now offering a toll-free customer support number for all Apple users. Called the "Customer Assistance Center", this service will answer questions on Apple sales, programs, and policies. Apple already has an extensive customer support/service network, which includes Apple Dealers, User Groups, system integrators, and sales consultants. However, if Apple II/Macintosh users are not obtaining enough support, this toll-free number will function as a "backup system" for addressing their needs. The Costumer Assistance Center is available Monday-Friday, 6 AM - 5 PM Pacific Time, at 1-800-776-2333. CPU INSIGHTS? ============ DELUXE PAINT ST from Electronic Arts. Deluxe Paint ST is now available in England through Electronic Arts. (Available soon in USA). As the authors of the program, we at ArtisTech Development will answer questions about the program on-line. Electronic Arts is handing the "Customer Service", however. Deluxe Paint ST is a very powerful art, animation, & printing package. Here are just a few of it's features: - Works in all 512K color ST systems - Supports STe extended color palette. - 999 possible buffers of pics/anims, up to 999 frames per anim. - Full color, any size, proportionally spaced fonts. - Palette: 4 color cycle ranges, RGB & HSV controls, Hue spread and more. - Fast fills: Solid, dithered, outline, gradient (conform & rotated), & brush pattern (any size). - Drawing: Freehand, Linedraw, Bezier curves (4 point editable), Rectangle/Ellipse, True Square/Circle, filled Polygon, Mirror. - Drawing modes: Cycle, Blend, Smooth, Filter, Smear and more. - Stencils: Protect colors, Background, Foreground. - Multi-color sizable airbrush. - Brush cutting: carving, circle/ellipse/rectangle to brush - Brush distortions: size, rotate, skew, 3D - UNDO almost always available. - Keyboard commands compatible with DPaint III (Amiga). - Real-time, variable zoom magnify that works with all tools. - 3D Tweening, with fast preview. - Adjustable Animation speed. - Play once, looped or pong. - Poster printing: 0.1 X 0.1 inch to 99.9 X 99.9 inch posters. - Full CMYK color correction. - Support for most popular printers (Epson, HP, IBM, Okimate etc...) - Only non-game to receive "ST Format Gold" award. See Oct. '90 issue Deluxe Paint ST supports NEO, PI1, PC1, Amiga IFF, and a new version of IFF that is smaller and faster. ____________________________________________________________ SLICCTOP: TOS MULTITASKING AT LAST? ------------------------------------ With the advent of multitasking operating systems like MultiFinder, Microsoft Windows, OS/2, and AmigaDOS, Atari ST Users have wanted an efficient and effective way to run more than one ST application at the same time. While applications like Michtron's Juggler II and Intersect's Revolver allow ST Users to have more than one ST application in memory, they only act as "software switchers", stopping the operation of Program A when one selects Program B. As such, ST Users still had to dream of being able to multitask ST programs. Utilities like Beckemeyer Development's MT C-Shell and Eric Smith's MiNT have been excellent for running Desk Accessories and TOS programs concurrently. However, these Third-Party solutions cannot multitask GEM applications, a major criteria for ST Users desiring to run several programs for the ST concurrently. In Early 1990, Atari itself announced the MIDI-Tasking system, designed to multitask GEM-compliant ST MIDI programs. But while MIDI-Tasking has great potential in the MIDI field, it wasn't designed as a general device for multitasking GEM programs, and many ST/GEM programs are incompatible with it. This situation has left the spectre of ST multitasking hanging just out of the reach of the ST Community. Recently, a company called SliccWare announced a new program for the Atari ST called SliccTop, that would provide multitasking to ST users while using GEM applications. While ST Users had already seen several programs which only came close to providing complete ST Multitasking, the ST community began to hope that SliccTop was the long-awaited solution to this demand. With its release, SliccWare has released information about SliccTop that answers many questions that the ST community has had concerning its abilities. Here is their Release: SLICCTOP IS NOT JUST ANOTHER DESKTOP! ===================================== I by: Randy Foster, President of SLICCWARE SLICCTOP is a very advanced operating system which is capable of performing multiple functions concurrently -- multitasking. To provide the user with the greatest possible control over the multitasking functions, SLICCTOP employs a system of CPU and resource allocation called priority-tasking. PRIORITY-TASKING OK, What is it? Within the basic architecture of SLICCTOP is probably the most advanced system of multitasking ever devised for use on a micro-computer. The system is called priority-tasking. Priority-tasking, unlike other multitasking systems, is not based primarily upon a simple preemptive time slicing process originally designed for use on computers which provided little or no user interaction. Instead, priority-tasking is a complex combination of processor control, as well as resource, display and memory management; built upon a system driven primarily by event response and transaction processing. In other words SLICCTOP employs a system which from the start has been designed to place the user in the position of greatest importance, and to respond in the most effective manner to any user request. The power of priority-tasking greatly enhances the flexibility and power given the user. He may now start one task, such as a multiple folder/file transfer; then, start a second task such as file printout; then start a third, maybe another file transfer or printout; then a fourth; etc. Tasks in the same category are automatically queued so that they are performed in the order of their request. Tasks in differing categories are initiated immediately, and proceed concurrently, based on the priority assigned them by the system. And, of course, any task currently executing may be cancelled by the user by simply selecting the CANCEL button on the watch box corresponding to that task. Another product, SLICCDOS, which will be released in 4 to 5 months, will completely replace the file management system on the Atari. SLICCTOP does not require SLICCDOS to function. However, with SLICCDOS, the operating system is complete, and priority-tasking is taken to its full potential; becoming almost totally transparent to the user. However, without SLICCDOS, using standard system file management, occasional brief delays may be encountered in keyboard or mouse response while transferring files due to the enormous overhead involved in opening the file. The delays encountered are minimal, and occur only while opening a file; and should not cause any great inconvenience. Certain tasks are considered priority-response, and are handled immediately. Such tasks include: 1. Responding to user selection; 2. Opening a window; 3. Getting information about a disk, folder or file; 4. Activating a new application, accessory or program. In general, all file management and disk processing belongs to the same category, and will be placed into the same queue once all necessary information has been obtained from the user via a transfer initiation form. Three notable exceptions do exist for systems in which SLICCDOS has not been installed. They are: 1. Erasing an entire floppy disk or hard disk partition; 2. Formatting a floppy disk; 3. Duplicating a floppy disk. All three of these processes are performed immediately if SLICCDOS has not been installed onto the system. if SLICCDOS is on the system, high speed asynchronous floppy disk access is supported, and therefore, these processes may be placed into the same queue as all other file management and disk processing requests. Printer processing, likewise, has its own queue. As a result, printouts are handled one after another in the order they are requested, and a page eject is generated any time an individual file is completed or the printout is cancelled by the user. Because printer processing has its own queue, printouts may be made at the same time transfers are being carried out. NOW COMES THE REAL POWER! Queued processing does not take over the system! Quite the contrary. Queued processing is only carried out as decreasing user interaction makes the system available. When a user-intensive process (such as dragging a window) is taking place,queued processing may become completely suspended. On the other hand, while the user is engaged in deep thought and not using the computer directly, queued processing may proceed at nearly maximum speed. The usual situation is somewhere in between. Not only may the user perform normal desktop operations and run desktop applications while queued processing is taking place, he may also access desktop accessories and even use his favorite Atari programs. Programs using a menu bar even allow the user to return to the desktop to monitor queued processing directly, terminate or initiate additional queued processes, access desktop applications, or perform other desktop operations. "TOS" and "TTP" programs are a special case. Without SLICCDOS installed, queued processing is suspended while "TOS" and "TTP" programs are executing. With SLICCDOS installed, "TOS" and "TTP" programs run directly on the desktop in user sizable windows; and queued processing continues just as it would for any desktop application. II SLICCTOP is a very advanced operating system which is capable of performing multiple functions concurrently -- multitasking. To provide the user with the greatest possible control over the multitasking functions, SLICCTOP employs a system of CPU and resource allocation called priority-tasking. Not only may the user perform normal desktop operations and run desktop applications while queued processing is taking place, he may also access desktop accessories and even use his favorite Atari programs. Programs using a menu bar even allow the user to return to the desktop to monitor queued processing directly, terminate or initiate additional queued processes, access desktop applications, or perform other desktop operations. "TOS" and "TTP" programs are a special case. Without SLICCDOS installed, queued processing is suspended while "TOS" and "TTP" programs are executing. With SLICCDOS installed, "TOS" and "TTP" programs run directly on the desktop in user sizable windows; and queued processing continues just as it would for any desktop application. YES, COLUMBUS. THE WORLD IS ROUND! BUT, NO, THIS IS NOT INDIA. Yes, now there is true multitasking on ATARI . . . and a system far superior to any other in the marketplace. But, that does not mean that your system is now capable of executing multiple Atari programs concurrently. Many of the developers who designed software for use on the Atari have designed it in such a way as to prevent efficient multitasking, and in some cases, even made their software totally incompatible with a multitasking system by use of what may be termed as system-hacking technology. To avoid the disasters of system crashes resulting from attempting to multitask conflicting hacker software, SLICCWARE has chosen to run the entire Atari operating system as though it were a single task. To further avoid problems, the major operating system functions such as disk access and window control are constantly monitored, even if the major portion of SLICCTOP has been swapped out at the user's request while an Atari program is executing. The result, the user may only run one Atari program at a time. He may, however, run that program while queued processing is taking place. And if that program contains a menu bar, he may also run concur- rently any number of SLICCTOP compatible applications as well as perform desktop functions and monitor any queued processing taking place! To execute an Atari program, simply "open" the corresponding icon or select the appropriate entry from the quick access menu as described in the user's manual. Any necessary clean-up or reorganization will be performed to allow concurrent processing (queued processes) to be temporarily suspended. Once the program has been entered, concurrent processing will be reinstated. At that point the desktop is immediately accessible by selecting SLICCTOP from the accessory menu. Although the Atari operating system was not designed with SLICCTOP in mind, (How could it be?) every effort has been made to simulate a priority-tasking response within that environment. And, even though without SLICCDOS installed, there may be a minor delay in keyboard response just at the instant a transferring file is being opened, the keyboard priority is such that normal typing speed (even for us "hunt-'n'- peck" types) should be sufficient to force most queued processing to wait for the occasional user pause. The result being, that any keyboard response delay due to queued processing is only likely to occur at the beginning of any typing sequence, and then, only occasionally. In addition, once SLICCDOS has been installed, all keyboard delay due to queued processing will disappear, and queued processing itself will be many times more efficient. Certain actions temporarily suspend queued processing. Among these are: - Desktop menu processing, - Alert boxes, and - Help screens. Occasionally a queued process may encounter a problem such as a system error or, in the case of file transfers, a name conflict. In such a case, the appropriate form is displayed to the screen to inform the user and to elicit a response. This form will appear on the screen whether the user is on the desktop or in his favorite Atari program. Once the user has responded, all processing will continue just as it had before the problem was encountered. Because queued processing is intended not to interfere with the user, queued processing watch boxes are designed to be treated like windows. Although they may not be resized, they may be moved around the desktop and placed almost entirely off screen. Also, other windows may be brought to the foreground for processing while the watch box is displayed. In addition, watch boxes may be brought to the foreground in the same way as a standard window, by mouse selection, or by entering the window number which is located in the upper left corner. (ie: A watch box with "#02" in the upper left corner may be brought to the foreground by entering "ESCAPE" "0" "2" from the keyboard.) Finally, standard data entry forms may also be moved about the desk so that monitoring of queued processing may continue while the user is entering data into the forms. However, no other windows or forms may be accessed while a standard data entry form is present on the screen. This does not apply to concurrent process forms such as database entry forms that are treated as ordinary windows. Concurrent process forms may be easily identified by the window number in the upper left corner.(ie: #03") A queued processing watch box is a type of concurrent process form. Also, alert boxes and help screens may not be moved about the screen. Because transfer operations are defined as queued processes, and may be carried out concurrently with other operations; the user is able to initiate a number of transfers in the order desired; clear any windows he chooses; and then, go about his business on the desktop or in his favorite Atari program. The operations will be carried out in the order he initiated them, and any conflict will be reported to him directly, whether he is on the desktop or in his favorite Atari program. He has, in effect, much of the same power normally reserved for those who use macros or command files inside a command line interface. And, he has all this power with the convenience of a mouse and icon selection process. Stay tuned. There is more to come! The entire design and marketing strategy of SLICCWARE assumes a constant generation of new software. Every three to four months another major application will be produced to run on the desktop. And its price is expected to be in a range of the price paid for SLICCTOP. These products will be available in traditional retail outlets. In addition, numerous smaller items will be produced at a much faster rate and will be available to registered owners of the software through mail order only. They will sell primarily for less than ten dollars (five-'n-dime software). The reason this high volume of software production is possible, is because much of the processing required by any software item is already coded into the SLICCTOP operating system. And since the software is fully modular, relocatable, reentrant and swappable; it may be used by any application running on the desktop. This also results in the size of major applications being very small indeed. It additionally allows for upgrades and enhancements to be added to the operating system and individual applications with a minimum of impact. Because of the ease and flexibility of system modification, our upgrade policy is simple. If an upgrade is available for some product, and it does not define a new functionality or major enhancement it will be placed automatically (at no charge) on any five-'n-dime software ordered by the user; or made available on networks or through user groups. New functionalities and enhancements will appear as five-'n-dime software. *********************************************************************** :HOW TO GET YOUR OWN GENIE ACCOUNT: _________________________________ To sign up for GEnie service: Call: (with modem) 800-638-8369. Upon connection type HHH (RETURN after that). Wait for the U#= prompt. Type: XTX99587,CPUREPT then, hit RETURN. **** SIGN UP FEE WAIVED **** The system will now prompt you for your information. -> NOW! GENIE STAR SERVICE IS IN EFFECT!! <- *********************************************************************** > NEODESK & ATARI CANADA! STR Spotlight? Canadians get a 'neat' deal! ===================================== Gribnif Software NEWS RELEASE October 1990 Press Contact: Rick Flashman, President Gribnif Software, P.O. Box 350, Hadley, MA 01035 Tel: (413) 584-7887, Fax: (413) 584-2565 NEODESK 3 NOW BUNDLED WITH ALL ATARI ST COMPUTERS IN CANADA HADLEY, MA (October, 1990) -- Gribnif Software has announced that effective immediately and throughout the current holiday season, all Atari ST personal computers sold in Canada will ship with their best selling title, NeoDesk 3 - The Ultimate Desktop. The easy to use and powerful graphical environment offered by NeoDesk 3 will bring a fresh new look and higher level of performance to those units which will assist Atari Canada in their marketing throughout the holiday season. The completely graphical approach of NeoDesk 3 brings to the Atari a more professional, efficient, and user friendly interface which can effectively compete head on with the new graphical interfaces now being offered on other platforms. In making this announcement, Rick Flashman, president of Gribnif Software stated "We are very excited about this agreement. We believe that a computer's user interface is an excellent demonstrator of its power and capability. NeoDesk 3 pushes the Atari to its limit and demonstrates what many have known all along, that the Atari is as good or better than anything else available on the market today. We also thank our Canadian distributor, ISD Marketing, in helping finalize this agreement." NeoDesk 3 is also available through normal distribution channels and has a suggested licensing fee of $69.95 US (about $89.95 Canadian). NeoDesk is a trademark of Gribnif Software. Atari and ST are trademarks of Atari Corporation. ____________________________________________________________ > Stock Market ~ STReport? And the Band Marches On.... ======================= THE TICKERTAPE ============== by Michael Arthur The price of Atari stock stayed the same on Monday, but shot up by 1/2 of a point on Tuesday. On Wednesday, the price of Atari stock went up 1/4 of a point, and went down 1/8 of a point on Thursday. On Friday, the price of Atari stock went down 1/4 of a point. Finishing up the week at $2.25 a share, the price of Atari's stock went up 3/8 of a point from October 19th to October 26th. As of October 26, 1990, Jack Tramiel's 36 million shares of Atari stock are now worth approximately 81 Million dollars.... Apple Stock was down 1 3/8 points from Friday, October 19, 1990. Commodore Stock was up 3/4 of a point from 10/19/90. IBM Stock was down 1 point from 10/19/90. Stock Report for Week of 10/22/90 to 10/26/90 _________________________________________________________________________ STock| Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Reprt|Last Chg.|Last Chg.|Last Chg.|Last Chg.|Last Chg.| -----|------------|------------|--------------|-----------|--------------| Atari|1 7/8 ---- |2 3/8 +1/2|2 5/8 + 1/4|2 1/2 -1/8|2 1/4 - 1/4| | | 51,800 Sls | | | 39,900 Sls | -----|------------+------------+--------------+-----------+--------------| CBM |6 1/2 +5/8|6 1/2 ---- |6 3/8 - 1/8|6 3/8 -1/8|6 5/8 + 1/4| |123,300 Sls | | | | 106,800 Sls | -----|------------+------------+--------------+-----------+--------------| Apple|31 1/8 -1/4| 31 -1 1/8|30 1/2 - 1/2| 30 -1/2| 30 ---- | | | | | |1,198,200 Sls | -----|------------+------------+--------------+-----------+--------------| IBM |107 3/4 +1/8|106 3/4 - 1|108 5/8 +1 7/8|108 1/8 |106 5/8 -1 1/2| | | |1,619,400 Sls | -1/2|1,246,100 Sls | -----'-------------------------------------------------------------------' '#' and 'Sls' refer to the # of stock shares that were traded that day. 'CBM' refers to Commodore Corporation. ___________________________________________________________ > USENET CALLING STR OnLine? Atari Emulator Illegal! -> Pratt ========================= bdt!unisoft!hoptoad!pacbell!pacbell.com!ucsd!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu! n!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt From: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Emulated by Amiga & Doug Harrison's Opus Message-ID: <3629@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Date: 16 Oct 90 11:19:52 GMT References: <2669@dali> Organization: SPRU, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, UK Lines: 43 From article <2669@dali>, by icsu8053@ming.cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt): - All in all, I don't think I'd call Atari1 an emulator - not even close to the level of the Mac emulators. It's just an interesting/illegal hack job. - More novelty than utility. Oh well, at least Amiga users can run Opus now, at half speed. (No, I didn't give him a copy) Thanks for the info on the Atari1 emulator, Craig. I think I might wait a while before dumping my ST for an Amiga. :-) - BTW, George Harrison, are we going to see a new version of Opus soon? Doug Harrison actually, but don't worry, I make this sort of mistake too. The last time I was in contact with him, he'd put his plan to write a completely new spreadsheet on hold. He wasn't sure there'd be a market for it, and he was waiting to see how successful the TT would be. From that, I guess we can take it that the new program will be either a long time coming or won't arrive at all. As far as I know, Doug hasn't done any more work on Opus since v2.2 (2.3 for shareware contributors). Shame, as it's a fine program except for a few niggles (having to press the f9/f10 keys to enter labels/formulae, etc.) Doug didn't want to do more work on Opus because some of the changes he wanted to make involved getting very deep into the code. He said that since he'd learned about the vagaries of GEM through writing Opus, he'd sooner start again and do the job properly. Perhaps he could be persuaded to do something if enough people asked him. He's been writing programs for CodeHead Software recently, so you could reach him there or (I think) at the address in the Opus info box. Also, he's on CompuServe: address your queries/requests to 72277.2315 @ compuserve.com Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK JANET: grahamt@uk.ac.sussex.syma BITNET: grahamt%syma.sussex.ac.uk @UKACRL INTERNET: grahamt%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk UUCP: grahamt%syma.sussex@ukc.uucp PHONE: +44 273 686758 FAX: [..] 685865 bdt!unisoft!hoptoad!pacbell!pacbell.com!ucsd!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!portal!atari!apratt From: apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Atari ST emulator for the Amiga: Atari's position Message-ID: <2709@atari.UUCP> Date: 16 Oct 90 21:34:04 GMT Organization: Atari Corp., Sunnyvale CA Lines: 35 Some people have expressed confusion over the legality of the "Atari Emulator" now floating around the net for the Amiga. I understand that Atari's position is that it is a grave and flagrant violation of Atari's copyright, and we are asking everybody, especially archive sites and BBSes, to stop distributing it and remove all copies they have. I don't know why people think this *could* be legal: it's a derivative work from Atari's copyrighted material, and Atari intends to protect its copyrights. Some people have expressed dismay that their favorite archive or BBS might get in trouble. In my *personal* opinion, the operators of these sites bring doom upon themselves by making uploads immediately available for downloading, with no checks on the content of the uploads. I believe that only a Common Carrier, such as the phone company or an airline, can legally be blind to the content of the information or goods they transport and distribute. Everybody else is responsible for exercising due diligence to ensure that no illegal activity is going on using their equipment or service. Since this program is prima facie a copyright violation, a duly diligent sysop would not have made it available for downloads. Finally, some people have expressed the opinion that Atari should be a "good guy" and take no action concerning this. That's nonsense. If you don't vigorously protect your copyrights, you lose them. Ignoring this could mean relinquishing all rights to protect TOS from copying and modification. This message represents my opinions and things I believe to be true, but it is not to be considered a legal opinion from Atari's legal department or anybody else but me. -- Allan Pratt Systems Software Engineer Atari Computer Corp. ...ames!atari!apratt _______________________________________________________ > MichTron Sale STR InfoFile? MichTron sale information ========================== MICHTRON 3285 Lapeer Rd West Auburn Hills, MI 48326 Phone 313-377-8898 Fax 313-377-2550 October 23, 1990 Greetings: MichTron is going to have a Going out of Business sale. But we are not totally going out of business. What is happening is that Creative Computers in Del is purchasing most of our stock and the name MichTron, and will continue to sell and support MichTron software. The building we are now in has been sold and the new tenants are going to move in shortly. So we have to clear it out. Nine years of Computer goodies are going on sale! On Saturday.. Nov 3, 1990, [10AM to 4PM] we are going to have a big Garage sale! We are going to be selling anything and everything.. There will be software for the Atari ST, The Commodore Amiga, and IBM PC's. This will include MIchTron, Microdeal, HiSoft, all the brands we carried and lots of third party brands that we purchased for our own use, or was sent to us. Games for $1, word processors for $10 and desk top publishing packages for $40. The deals of the century. We will be selling new and used disks. (.30 for 3.5 inch disks) , Cables, computers Ataris, Amigas and PC Clones.. New and Used.. Monitors, hard drives, mice, printers, printer stands, Metal shelves, Pallet Racks, everything in the building must be sold. This is a great time to stock up on Christmas Presents for the kids and that new software to while away the winter. Directions: ---------- Take I-75 to Lapeer Road Exit (exit 81) Turn RT going SOUTH on Lapeer Rd (towards Pontiac) First Street turn RT again (just past the used car lot) Go around the corner and we are the first driveway on the left, the building on the right. The address is on Lapeer Rd but we are on a private Industrial sub division 1/2 mile south of the Palace. ______________________________________________________ > SOLUTIONS! STR InfoFile? The RPN "Solution"! ======================= ***************************************** * Solutions v 0.8 (Demo version) * ***************************************** In order to be able to run Solutions, you will need these files: - SOLUTION.PRG (main program) - SOLUTION.RSC (resource file) - OPER.DAT (date file) - SOLUTION.FNT (font file) You will also need GDOS, (or an alternate GDOS, e.g. G+PLUS). You'll understand that I could not include it with the demo version. This version of Solutions may be freely copied and distributed, as long as the code is not modified (this applies to the ".RSC" and ".DAT" files too). This software is not the first of this kind, but it is the first that has gone so far on the ST (You'll have to get Mathematica to get "better"; but in my point of view, Mathematica is too big and difficult to use efficiently). So, Solutions is a package that will help you resolve your mathematical problems. I will teach you some things about Solutions now, or you will never be able to see how good it is. You will first have to know that Solutions' logic is based on RPN (Reverse Polish Notation), which means you have to enter arguments before executing a function. The arguments stacks up in a stack and results are returned to the stack (available as arguments to other functions). One "feature" of RPN is the non-necessity of parenthesis (e.g. if you want to enter the equation '(A+B)*C', you will first enter A, then B, execute +, enter C, and finally enter *; just try and watch the intermediate results in the stack). It takes a while to feel comfortable with RPN, but when you are, you understand everything you enter, and that eliminates lots of errors. In the stack, there are OBJECTS. There are 10 types of object: - Real numbers - Complex numbers - Binary integers - Strings - Vectors - Matrices - Lists - Names (or variables) - Programs - Algebraic There are over 270 functions, and many of them use various combination of different object types. One strong point of Solutions is the ability to manipulate symbolic equations (i.e. you could enter 'A+B' or 'SIN(X/Y)' ). Solutions has calculus capability (differentiation and integration: not in the demo version), and graphic capability (the demo version will only show you the SINE function; you'll have to get the original to make fast plots of your functions...). If 270 functions are not enough for you, you may program your funct- ion. Structured programming (IF ... THEN, DO ... UNTIL, WHILE ... REPEAT, etc.) allows you to use any function, call other user-defined functions, etc. Due to the large number of functions, and the fact that this is only a demo version, I cannot enumerate all built-in functions, and tell you what they are doing. You will have to guess, try, and retry... or buy the original (which will have a good documentation and will allow you to receive constant upgrades of the software). Upgrades to come: - Graphics 3D - More than 1 stack, multitasking - Matrices with names and algebraics Known bugs to July 18th 1990: - the editor is not fully completed and may sometimes give unexpected results on screen. - if you are too short in memory, you may enter the garbage collect routine (which is not completed yet); so you could have unexpected results (like the mouse is hidden and causing some garbage on screen; it should not bombs). I have not yet fully tested it on a 1 Meg ST, but with 4 Megs, it is running pretty well. I know that with some memory constraints, it could not be the same! Known restrictions: - Arguments to trigonometric functions will give results when absolute value is smaller than ~1E20 (about 1000000000000000000- 00). Otherwise result will be 0. This applies to functions that are using trigonometric functions. It should be fixed soon. - Stack size, vector size, matrix size is limited to 32767. If ever that bugs you (or the program), just tell me. In order to be able to fully use Solutions, it's worth the investment of buying the original. Not to mention that for the thousands of hours I spent writing it (now 30000 lines in C), you will be shown a small price tag and given full documentation. If EVER you feel interested, let your heart decide, and go buy the original (if ever I find a distributor), or write to me: Paul Dub Projects Informatiques C.P. 302 Limoilou P.Q. Canada G1L 4V8 You can also reach me at: P.DUBE (XTX84636) on GEnie or 72020,3041 on CompuServe ______________________________________________________________ > STE TROUBLES STR FOCUS? Certain Games have quirks with STe... ====================== STe INCOMPATIBILITIES ===================== by Ken Newman The following is a list of games that don't work on the Atari STe (TOS 1.6) as of Summer/Fall 90. The list was originally from the British magaz- ine ST Action, but I've amended it slightly. Several games they said didn't work actually do work, such as the Falcon Mission Disk (I tried it - no problems). They might have used a 520STe, which is only available in Europe. I used a 1040STe. TOS 1.4/1.6 might use more RAM, so things that barely fit in an old 520 might not fit in a 520STe. Most games that don't work with 1.6 also don't work with 1.4; the big changes happened with 1.4. I only tested a couple games on 1.4. Those remaining from the original list I have either verified myself or didn't have the game to test. 3D Pool Beyond the Ice Palace Captain Blood * + Carrier Command Conflict Europe Dark Side Defender of the Crown * F16 Combat Pilot Ghouls 'n' Ghosts Heroes of the Lance * + Hound of Shadow Karate Kid 2 Kick Off License to Kill Menace * Microprose Soccer Mr. Heli New Zealand Story Ninja Warriors Operation Wolf Overlander Paperboy Populous Rick Dangerous Star Wars Time Scanner Times of Lore Total Eclipse TV Sports Football Waterloo Winter Games Weird Dreams * = verified myself + = doesn't work in 1.4 (verified myself) _________________________________________________________________ > WIDGETS PHANTOM! STR InfoFile? The SLM804 "sleeps" 'till you need it ============================= ATARI SLM804 OWNERS! ==================== :announcing: "PHANTOM OF THE LASER" ====================== * Frustrated by the requirement that the laser printer MUST be on to use your computer?! * Tired of the fan noise, heat, & power consumption? * Worried about the internal heat buildup when you use the "backdoor" shutoff "FIX"?! THE PHANTOM OF THE LASER SOLVES ALL THESE PROBLEMS!! * The SLM804 remains off 'till you really need it to print! * The "PHANTOM" is installed inside the SLMC804 interface box permanently. A 12 volt power cube supplies the "Phantom's" requirements. Built with computer grade components. "BULLETPROOF" Design! Total system compatibility! No more unplugging the interface cable just to play games! $40.00 US - Installed at our facility. WIDGETS BY DECKER* 2399 SW Palisades Crest Drive Lake Oswego, OR. 97034 USA Telephone 503-638-3940 *(Innovation through frustration!) Please note that the quoted phone number in the November issue of Current Notes is WRONG! The correct number is listed here! ___________________________________________________________ > The Flip Side STR Feature? A different viewpoint! ========================= A LITTLE OF THIS, A LITTLE OF THAT ================================== by Michael Lee It's been a while since we last visited the Gadgets by Small Round- table on Genie, so let's stop by and see how their MegaTalk and 68030 boards are coming along. And while we're there, we can check out the progress on the new GCR 3.0 software. For you who have forgotten what the MegaTalk board will do, here's Dave Small's description of it... "The MegaTalk board similarly configures the ST to talk to one of the, if not the, largest LAN installed base in the world -- LocalTalk. It lets the ST mix with IBM and Apple machines using that LAN with a quick plug-in." ---------------- From Dave Small (Gadgets by Small) on Genie... ...Folks, if it sounds like we're busier than a (insert your metaphor here), you're right. LOTS is going on, between final MegaTalk board software tuning for performance, 68030 benchmarking (and fixing the benchmarker!), the usual European shows that demand our shipment of GCR's (just had one), Sandy doing the 5.0 newsletter, me helping with the text on that, getting a little Comdex surprise ready, and so forth. ...Physically the board extends, if you visualize a Mega from the front, from the 68000 socket to the front of the machine (with some clearance but not much), from the side where the battery cable comes in to next to the floppy drive. Frankly, most of the room is taken up by the 8 SIMM memory sockets; they take up real estate. ...The board COULD go into a 520/1040, I would guess, if you get things out of the way of it and put the whole thing into a metal case for RFI/EMI protection, so it doesn't flip TV's across your town upside down. However, I have not "fitted" it for a 520/1040 and 1040's come with differing board layouts. ...The key to the speed is fastRAM, folks. Many 68030 "Accelerator" designs spend their time waiting on memory; it's like trying to breathe through a straw...incidentally -- it is my honest belief that our board will beat any other, even in "benchmarks". ...Folks, the 030 board is in its final stages. An analogy would be an engine that's installed, running, but not putting out top HP on the top end -- the carb needs adjusting and the timing adjusting. But everything else is there. This is the most rock and roll board I've *ever* had something to do with. ---------------- Ken Stevens on Genie asks... ...Will the 030 board be compatible with the MegaTalk board. Will the 32 bit bus be compatible with any products designed for the bus on the Fast Technologies board? George Richardson (Gadgets by Small) on Genie replies... ...The '030 and Megatalk will be compatible with each other. In fact you should be able to use any available expansion card with the '030. ...Boards designed for Jim's board won't fit on ours. On the other hand, we're already looking at several different types of expansion cards. ...An adapter to fit VME boards is also possible, so that if anyone packages a VME board setup for the TT, owners of the Gadgets board will also be able to use it. ...Well, the design is down solid, but the old FCC gang has to have it's shot at delaying things yet... ---------------- Tom Dodge on Genie asks... ...What about Multi-tasking?? The 68030 supports this directly.... George Richardson (Gadgets by Small) on Genie replies... ...Despite Atari's claims of multitasking TOS being extremely dif- ficult, I'd bet that someone will manage to do it for the TT ...If it runs on the TT without making calls on hardware other than the 68030 & FPU, it'll run on the Gadgets SST (are we still calling it that?). John Towns (Atari) on Genie replies... ...Multitasking TOS isn't hard. But it's hard to do it right and to maintain a high level of compatibility with existing applications ...It's something that we are planning to do, but we are going to take our time and do it _right_. ---------------- From Mark Stace (Gadgets by Small) on Genie... ...Spectre 3.0 will already provides user-definable keyboard mapping, to a degree....This ascii file is editable by the end user to assign and define many of the keyboard's keys. ...Spectre 3.0 hard disk formatter is even easier to use than previous versions. The 3.0 formatter is more "graphical" in nature. Kind of like a little bar graph representation of the size of each and every HD partition. From Dave Small (Gadgets by Small) on Genie... ...I'm very happy with 3.0. It's easily the most powerful version of Spectre that ever "wuz". ...A little bird tells me Spectre now works just fine on the TT. Naturally, I'm just passing that along; would *I* know? ...Anywho, hang in there a bit while we get this cast-in-concrete and then Gamma tested to sweat out any final bugs. ...Where we are at with 3.0 is Beta version 12. It is extremely solid, but does have a few very minor quirks left that we are fixing. ...I would be quite surprised if the remaining bug fixes take over a week, then it's into gamma test. ...We also have a newsletter to send out, announcing the thing; remember that only a small percentage of our users are online! ---------------- Until next week.... ____________________________________________________________ > LCAC V 2.0 STR SHOW NEWS? Chicago AtariFest V2.0 ========================= **** Chicago AtariFest V2.0 **** Lake County Atari Computer Enthusiasts are proud to present "Chicago AtariFest" to be held November 11th (Sunday) 1990 at the American Legion Gurnee Post located at W. Grand and Il. Rt. 21 (just 1 mile east of I-94 and the "Great America" theme park). The show will open to the public at 10:00 AM and will run until 4:00 PM. General admission will be $2.00 in advance, $3.00 at the door. Children under 6 will be admitted free with a paying adult. All paid admissions will have a chance at one of several valuable door prizes to be awarded at various times during the day. For more information on advance ticket sales and general show information, please contact LCACE at P.O. Box 8788, Waukegan, IL 60079-8788. A special show message base is available on the Python BBS, (708) 680-5105 300/1200/2400 24hrs. ------ Exhibitors/Developers -------- CodeHead Software DataQue Products P.O. Box 74090 P.O. Box 134 Los Angeles, CA 90004 Ontario, OH 44862 John Eidsvoog Chuck Steinman Brumleve Software M-S Designs P.O. Box 4195 611 W. Illinois Urbana, IL 61801-8820 Urbana, IL D.A. Brumleve Carl Stanford Reeve Software Atari Interface Magazine 29 Old Farm Lane 3487 Braeburn Cir. Warrenville, IL 60555 Ann Arbor, MI Alan Reeve Bill and Pattie Rayl Atari Portable Ent. Magazine ICD, Inc. 2104 Kostner 1220 Rock Street Chicago, IL 60639 Rockford, IL Clinton Smith Tom Harker Compuserve Information Service WizWorks! P.O. Box 20212 P.O. Box 45 Columbus, OH 43220-0212 Girard, OH 44420 R. Retelle Chet Walters GEnie Information Services Rockville, Maryland Jeff Williams ------- Vendors/Dealers ---------- Mars Merchandising Computer Cellar 15 W. 615 Diversey 220 1/2 W. Main Street Elmhurst, IL 60126 St Charles, IL 60174 Paper Express H and H Computer Supplies P.O. Box 1036 824 Grafield Ave. Moline, IL 61265-1036 Aurora, IL 60506 Kolputer Systems CSA Limited 18 Burgess Dr. P.O. Box 567530 Glendale Hgts, IL Harwood Heights, IL 60656 Apple Annie ReCharge It 1005 S. Hamlin 866 Tower Rd. Park Ridge, IL 60068 Mundelien, IL 60060 -------- User Groups --------- L.C.A.C.E. S.C.A.T. Lake County Atari Computer Enthusiasts Suburban Chicago ATari P.O. Box 8788 8702 Osceola Waukegan, IL 60079-8788 Niles, IL 60648 MilAtari M.A.S.T. Milwaukee Atari Users Group Milwaukee Atari ST P.O. Box 14038 P.O. Box 25679 West Allis, WI 53214 Milwaukee, WI 53225 G.C.A.C.E. R.A.C.C. Chicago Atari Comp. Enthusiasts Rockford Atari Computer Club P.O. Box 6706 4658 Black Oak Tr. Chicago, IL 60614-6706 Rockford, IL 61103 L.A.U.G. T.U.G. Local Atari Users Group The Users Group 1N361 Ridgeland Av. P.O. Box 66583 W. Chicago, Il 60185 AMF O'Hare. IL 60666 ______________________________________________________ > STReport CONFIDENTIAL? "ATARI NEWS... ALWAYS FIRST!" ===================== - Rockville, MD GEnie announces 96oo Baud Access in 40 Cities! ------------- GE Information Services (GEIS), owner and operator of one of the world's largest commercial teleprocessing networks, announced today the introduction of 9600 bps asynchronous dial-up network access in 40 cities. This higher speed network access, with V.32 compatibility, will pro- vide significantly improved response time. GEIS clients using full- screen interactive applications and file transfer applications will par- ticularly benefit from this new feature. When used in conjunction with any of the various async error-free protocols that GEIS offers, 9600 bps provides a fast and reliable link to the GEIS teleprocessing network. Additionally, network access at 9600 bps should result in shorter session times, which will enable GEIS clients to improve productivity and reduce costs. Widespread acceptance of the V.32 standard provides GEIS clients with the freedom to choose from among a multitude of vendors in selecting the best modems for their own data processing equipment. This new 9600 bps async dial-up network access augments GEIS' existing 300-2400 bps async dial-up service which is available in 517 U.S. cities. This is the largest such deployment of any network-based services vendor. Many of these network node locations provide tri-speed modem service, offering GEIS clients the convenience of dialing a single telephone number for 300, 1200 or 2400 bps access to the GEIS network. With this deployment, GEIS is now one of the two network-based ser- vices vendors offering the largest number of 9600 bps async access locati- ons. GEIS also announced that 9600 bps synchronous (both SNA/SDLC and BSC) dial-up network access is in field test, with expected commercialization slated for 1991. This service will augment GEIS' existing 2400-4800 bps sync dial-up service. For further information about 9600 bps async dial-up access to the GEIS network, please call 1-800-433-3683. GE Information Services, a division of General Electric Company, U.S.A., has its headquarters in Rockville. It offers a wide range of value-added services for network-based business applications, systems integration and software development services, and network management services. - Sterling, VA MULTIBYTE CASEY & CASEY PLUS! ------------ Here's some information from Multibyte Inc. Concerning Stacy cases. The CASEY & CASEY Plus cases. The Plus is 20" x 15" x 3.5" in size. It is designed to allow unrestricted use of the Stacy's cartridge port wit- hout removing the Stacy from the case and permits most cartridge devices to remain installed while in use or transit. The CASEY is 15" x 15" x 3.5" in size, and is for Stacy users without the need to use the cartridge port. And the CASEY Jr. (at 15" x 17" x 3") is for users with a internal Stacy battery pack. CASEY PLUS Suggested Retail......................................: $368.00 (w/1 external 4.5 hour battery pack) CASEY Suggested retail......: $348.00 (same size battery pack as CASEY PLUS) CASEY Jr. Suggested retail: $135.00 (w/1 internal battery pack kit...................................: $325.00 (2.5** hour average time) Extra 4.5* hour battery pack $ 188.00 Stacy internal battery pack $ 198.00 Custom case colors additional $ 25.00 Quick charge battery charger $ 135.00 * 4.5 hour pack is the average tested time during normal operations using a Stacy 4 with a hard drive and floppy. Actual time may vary depending on usage. Standard colors for CASEY line are: Stacy Grey, Light Grey and Navy Blue. Custom colors are: Black Electric blue Woodland Camouflage Burgundy Bright Red Pink Forest Green Light Green Deep purple Yellow Fluorescent Orange. MULTIBYTE INCORPORATED 213 No.LINCOLN AVE. STERLING, VA. 22170 - Sunnyvale, CA NEW GOODIES FOR LYNX ENTHUSIASTS! ------------- Atari announced the following new products today: Lynx Sun Visor: A combination screen protector and sun visor which attaches to the Lynx using those 4 mysterious holes around the screen. Part #: PAG3400 Price: $4.95 Lynx Carrying Case (Large): Briefcase-style carrying case for the Lynx which has one large compartment to hold the Lynx and three smaller ones to hold the accessories you purchase. The cartridges are held in twelve slots built into the inside of the case's cover. Part #: PAG3350 Price: $19.95 Lynx Carrying Case (Small): Called the "Pouch", this carrying case is similar in design to car- rying cases for the Gameboy, with a large compartment to hold the Lynx, and two smaller pouches on the side to hold the cartridges. Down the side of the pouch is a area designed to hold the Comlynx cable. Part #: PAG3375 Price: $14.95 These should be appearing in your local dealer's showcase soon, or if you can't wait, can be purchased directly from Atari by sending a check or money order for the total order + tax (see state tax chart below) + $3.50 shipping & handling (for orders under $50, for orders above $50, call 408-745-2367 for more information). Orders from the following states must add the appropriate sales tax: Illinois: add 5% California: add 7.25% New Jersey: add 6% Massachusetts: add 5% Send your order to the following address: Atari Corporation P.O. Box 61657 Sunnyvale, CA 94089 Attn: Customer Relations All sales are final, for more information, call (408) 745-2367. - Sunnyvale, CA INTERNET LYNX NEW GAME RELEASE INFO ------------- Thanks to John Leo of the Internet, here is a recently-published list of upcoming games for the Atari Lynx. The list appears in the September issue of Famicom Tsushin, a mega-big video-gaming magazine. Titles have been translated from Japanese, and any obvious typos have been corrected by me. Release months are given, but I wouldn't count on them, since we're almost in November already. A lot of the titles have been reported by me before, but there's a bunch of new titles near the end that ought to be interesting... === September === Xenophobe Roadblasters Upshot (originally 3D Barrage) === October === Rampage Paperboy Zarlor Mercenary Rygar Klax === November === World Cup Soccer A.P.B. NFL Football === December === Ninja Gaiden Checkered Flag Vindicators Warbirds Tournament Cyberball 2072 Grid Runner Turbo Sub Scrapyard Dog === Future 1991 === Ms. Pac-Man Pinball Shuffle Basketbrawl Blockout 720 degrees Jungle Ball Swimsuit Volleyball Masters Golf Steal Home Time Lord Super Hockey S.T.U.N. Runner Lynx Casino Xybots Pac-Land Rolling Thunder Hoop Wars All-Star Basketball Mario Lemieux Hockey(?) Shanghai Viking Child This list, of course, does not include the titles recently announced by the third-party Lynx development companies. :ANNOUNCING... A NEW TITLE FOR THE LYNX!: Xenophobe!! Retail Price: $34.95 Part No: PA2026 Travel thru space ridding space stations and moonbases of the deadly aliens (with up to 3 friends) that have infested them. Just like the arcade version. 9 bases to clean up, with each base having different floors and levels. _____________________________________________________________ > Hard Disks STR InfoFile? 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